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		<title>by: Eric Hammond</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-108722</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 17:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I'm not a coder, but a freelance writer and illustrator. I found GAF a few weeks ago, and believe it to be useless unless you are from a third-world country, or are trying to take advantage of same. Article writers, for instance, make $1 per 500-word article. Yes. $1! This is insane, and I thought it must me a misprint or something... until I checked a hundred of them - same thing. That's the going rate on GAF. Most of the bidders are from 3rd-world countries, so the buyer often re-posts later for rewriters to make the mess they get readable.
Completely useless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a coder, but a freelance writer and illustrator. I found GAF a few weeks ago, and believe it to be useless unless you are from a third-world country, or are trying to take advantage of same. Article writers, for instance, make $1 per 500-word article. Yes. $1! This is insane, and I thought it must me a misprint or something&#8230; until I checked a hundred of them - same thing. That&#8217;s the going rate on GAF. Most of the bidders are from 3rd-world countries, so the buyer often re-posts later for rewriters to make the mess they get readable.<br />
Completely useless.
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		<title>by: luis</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-97466</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 07:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-97466</guid>
					<description>I am a member of GetaFreelancer, and I have won a few projects there. I think that some people (especially big-time professionals) have poor impressions of the site and its users. Indeed, there are many service providers who churn out poor service, but there are also many who give excellent, quality work despite the lesser pay.

The reason why buyers and providers continue to flock to GAF is because it's less restricted than other freelancing sites. Guru, for example, works better for professionals but charges ridiculous rates for their service! GAF, on the other hand, allows you to bid for projects for free, allowing you to earn money and the same time build your reputation. Freelancing websites that demand money before you can even find work are just missing the point. There are countless poor but talented freelancers who can't avail of such sites, and they are the ones flocking to GAF by the thousands.

GAF has done a great service to the freelancing world, especially to the poorer parts of the planet. Guru, eLance, and other expensive freelancing sites will do well in First World countries. GetAFreelancer does the same in Third World ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a member of GetaFreelancer, and I have won a few projects there. I think that some people (especially big-time professionals) have poor impressions of the site and its users. Indeed, there are many service providers who churn out poor service, but there are also many who give excellent, quality work despite the lesser pay.</p>
<p>The reason why buyers and providers continue to flock to GAF is because it&#8217;s less restricted than other freelancing sites. Guru, for example, works better for professionals but charges ridiculous rates for their service! GAF, on the other hand, allows you to bid for projects for free, allowing you to earn money and the same time build your reputation. Freelancing websites that demand money before you can even find work are just missing the point. There are countless poor but talented freelancers who can&#8217;t avail of such sites, and they are the ones flocking to GAF by the thousands.</p>
<p>GAF has done a great service to the freelancing world, especially to the poorer parts of the planet. Guru, eLance, and other expensive freelancing sites will do well in First World countries. GetAFreelancer does the same in Third World ones.
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		<title>by: Shawn Grant</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-95145</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:26:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I posted a project on GAF and received some bids, most of them spam that can be found in every project. A coder who seems skilled and professional turned in a complete thief because he asked for payment in advance, and as it was my first time in this kind of websites, I believed him and he stole my money. GAF support is useless, a bunch of nonprofessionals who never cared about my problem and didn't give any advice on what to do. After some time I tried GetACoder.com and, besides the E-book they have available to all users who have doubts about their functioning they have very helpful support team. Moreover I awarded more than 10 projects there and never had problems. GAF it's a waste of time and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a project on GAF and received some bids, most of them spam that can be found in every project. A coder who seems skilled and professional turned in a complete thief because he asked for payment in advance, and as it was my first time in this kind of websites, I believed him and he stole my money. GAF support is useless, a bunch of nonprofessionals who never cared about my problem and didn&#8217;t give any advice on what to do. After some time I tried GetACoder.com and, besides the E-book they have available to all users who have doubts about their functioning they have very helpful support team. Moreover I awarded more than 10 projects there and never had problems. GAF it&#8217;s a waste of time and money.
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		<title>by: JoeStack</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-93638</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-93638</guid>
					<description>Laugh all you want clown boys.  None of these services would be necessary if coders would do their jobs right in the first place.

It seems to be a badge of honor to make simple tasks difficult and the solutions inaccessible.  And you get extra brownie points for finger-pointing and denigrating the users who can't understand what the heck you're telling them.

I understand coders like to code application script, not instructions for using those apps.  But they do their apps and the community a terrible disservice when they confuse availability with accessability.  If the only people who can implement your apps are those who can also write them, where's your market?

I just posted a project on one of these services for an installation of TinyMCE or FCKeditor.  I use Dreamweaver to design websites and know just enough HTML to fix the Dreamweaver screw-ups.  I don't want or need to become an expert at javascript and arcane server functions.  I am interested in accomplishing other things with that time.

When I surfed the web for installation of TinyMCE and FCHeditor I was appalled by the short shrift given to understandable installation instructions by those two communities.  And I encountered hordes of would-be users scouring the web forums begging for help to accomplish what should be a drop-dead simple installation process.

All they get is stupid advice like, &quot;....download the zipfile and extract it into the root folder of your website.&quot;  (Ever try to get a zip/unzip utility to extract a file directly from your desktop to your shared website server?)  Sometimes, if the responder is feeling charitable, a few jumbled code fragments are offered up to further confuse the user.  Real information like a coherent step by step set of instructions are avoided like the plague.

No, you've missed the boat on this one.  There's real value here, a service made necessary by a bunch of snickering elitist snobs who can't find their own rear-ends with both hands.

Sorry - that's the way I see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laugh all you want clown boys.  None of these services would be necessary if coders would do their jobs right in the first place.</p>
<p>It seems to be a badge of honor to make simple tasks difficult and the solutions inaccessible.  And you get extra brownie points for finger-pointing and denigrating the users who can&#8217;t understand what the heck you&#8217;re telling them.</p>
<p>I understand coders like to code application script, not instructions for using those apps.  But they do their apps and the community a terrible disservice when they confuse availability with accessability.  If the only people who can implement your apps are those who can also write them, where&#8217;s your market?</p>
<p>I just posted a project on one of these services for an installation of TinyMCE or FCKeditor.  I use Dreamweaver to design websites and know just enough HTML to fix the Dreamweaver screw-ups.  I don&#8217;t want or need to become an expert at javascript and arcane server functions.  I am interested in accomplishing other things with that time.</p>
<p>When I surfed the web for installation of TinyMCE and FCHeditor I was appalled by the short shrift given to understandable installation instructions by those two communities.  And I encountered hordes of would-be users scouring the web forums begging for help to accomplish what should be a drop-dead simple installation process.</p>
<p>All they get is stupid advice like, &#8220;&#8230;.download the zipfile and extract it into the root folder of your website.&#8221;  (Ever try to get a zip/unzip utility to extract a file directly from your desktop to your shared website server?)  Sometimes, if the responder is feeling charitable, a few jumbled code fragments are offered up to further confuse the user.  Real information like a coherent step by step set of instructions are avoided like the plague.</p>
<p>No, you&#8217;ve missed the boat on this one.  There&#8217;s real value here, a service made necessary by a bunch of snickering elitist snobs who can&#8217;t find their own rear-ends with both hands.</p>
<p>Sorry - that&#8217;s the way I see it.
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		<title>by: shanki</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-93462</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-93462</guid>
					<description>Hi there,

I'm both a service buyer and provider on GAF and I must say, it's all about 'you get what you pay for.' Sadly, most buyers look for ridiculously low rates from providers and often end up with poor quality work. People offer low rates on their quotes just to land the job and then give up on it because the time and resources spent on the work are simply not compensated. 

Most of the providers are from developing nations and others are merely earning an extra buck doing what they love to do. It's not a place for full-time freelancers from the US and European countries, because the pay is horribly low. But for people from India, Sri Lanka, Philippines, Bangladesh, Ukraine etc, it's heaven-sent, as they earn more from a single project  than they would from a regular job in a month!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m both a service buyer and provider on GAF and I must say, it&#8217;s all about &#8216;you get what you pay for.&#8217; Sadly, most buyers look for ridiculously low rates from providers and often end up with poor quality work. People offer low rates on their quotes just to land the job and then give up on it because the time and resources spent on the work are simply not compensated. </p>
<p>Most of the providers are from developing nations and others are merely earning an extra buck doing what they love to do. It&#8217;s not a place for full-time freelancers from the US and European countries, because the pay is horribly low. But for people from India, Sri Lanka, Philippines, Bangladesh, Ukraine etc, it&#8217;s heaven-sent, as they earn more from a single project  than they would from a regular job in a month!
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		<title>by: C. Prosser</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-91953</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 07:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-91953</guid>
					<description>I have used services from GAF on 2 occasions. I admit that some of the qutes that come through are ridiculously low. Just because I am looking for cheaper overseas development doesn't mean I will pick the lowest quote. I choose those with the best portfolio of work and highest number of customer reviews - with a realistic quote and time frame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used services from GAF on 2 occasions. I admit that some of the qutes that come through are ridiculously low. Just because I am looking for cheaper overseas development doesn&#8217;t mean I will pick the lowest quote. I choose those with the best portfolio of work and highest number of customer reviews - with a realistic quote and time frame.
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		<title>by: SincoMart</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-84889</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-84889</guid>
					<description>We've had a GAF account for nearly 2 years and yes many of the bids posted by freelancers are just ridiculous! Some of the jobs posted (expectations, budget, etc.) are equally as ridiculous.

Fortunately, we have obtained a few good jobs via this site, but we've also worked with some unscrupulous people (I wont say what nationality) who have tried to rip us off on so many levels. That aside, however, what really gets my goat with these people is their payment system... they have a prepaid mastercard to which you can access your funds once you have been paid by a client, yet every time you are to receive funds to this card they find some reason to deactivate your account and make you jump through hoops to get it back. Now security where money is concerned is one thing but this is just outright foolishness!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve had a GAF account for nearly 2 years and yes many of the bids posted by freelancers are just ridiculous! Some of the jobs posted (expectations, budget, etc.) are equally as ridiculous.</p>
<p>Fortunately, we have obtained a few good jobs via this site, but we&#8217;ve also worked with some unscrupulous people (I wont say what nationality) who have tried to rip us off on so many levels. That aside, however, what really gets my goat with these people is their payment system&#8230; they have a prepaid mastercard to which you can access your funds once you have been paid by a client, yet every time you are to receive funds to this card they find some reason to deactivate your account and make you jump through hoops to get it back. Now security where money is concerned is one thing but this is just outright foolishness!!!
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		<title>by: Freelance Jobs</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-83544</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 02:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-83544</guid>
					<description>Most developers on GAF and the alike may say they will build from scratch but many use ready-made scripts that they found on sites like HotScripts or some backdoor site.  These sites usually already have ready-made script clones for the most popular sites.  The developer use these scripts and just customize it for their clients, shortening the length of the project considerably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most developers on GAF and the alike may say they will build from scratch but many use ready-made scripts that they found on sites like HotScripts or some backdoor site.  These sites usually already have ready-made script clones for the most popular sites.  The developer use these scripts and just customize it for their clients, shortening the length of the project considerably.
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		<title>by: Kate Naylor</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-73052</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 12:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-73052</guid>
					<description>As an experienced copywriter I have to agree. The problem with getafreelancer, for instance, is that many of the 'copywriters' registered on the site live in countries where rates of pay are very low. So a project might require someone to write 500 300 word articles for $1 each. That's 50p in real money. Which is absolutely lamentable.

At the same time I see many UK and US businesses who use the site moaning about the poor quality of copy provided by freelancers via the site. Hm. What on earth do they expect if they're only prepared to pay peanuts? As the saying goes, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

Getafreelancer would work a lot better if it split sites by region:  europe / India / US etc. The concept only makes sense if employees offer the going rate in any particular country. 

In the UK a good copywriter will charge between £35 and £45 an hour. About the same as a decent plumber or plasterer. $1 per 300 words is simply unacceptable. And greedy employers who try to save cash by taking advantage of poorer countries' rates and foreign freelancers' imperfect english get what they desreve. Poor work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an experienced copywriter I have to agree. The problem with getafreelancer, for instance, is that many of the &#8216;copywriters&#8217; registered on the site live in countries where rates of pay are very low. So a project might require someone to write 500 300 word articles for $1 each. That&#8217;s 50p in real money. Which is absolutely lamentable.</p>
<p>At the same time I see many UK and US businesses who use the site moaning about the poor quality of copy provided by freelancers via the site. Hm. What on earth do they expect if they&#8217;re only prepared to pay peanuts? As the saying goes, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys.</p>
<p>Getafreelancer would work a lot better if it split sites by region:  europe / India / US etc. The concept only makes sense if employees offer the going rate in any particular country. </p>
<p>In the UK a good copywriter will charge between £35 and £45 an hour. About the same as a decent plumber or plasterer. $1 per 300 words is simply unacceptable. And greedy employers who try to save cash by taking advantage of poorer countries&#8217; rates and foreign freelancers&#8217; imperfect english get what they desreve. Poor work.
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		<title>by: freelancersky</title>
		<link>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-72199</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:37:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://blog.go4teams.com/archives/getafreelancer-for-real/99#comment-72199</guid>
					<description>Yes,I often get project on GAF(getafreelancer.com),even though many freelancer dont like the way GAF works,it also supply many projects for me.GAF has gold member there , you just pay 12$ and get total payment from your custom,it works for me.  And for get projects quickly ,I often use GafReminder ,it is a good tools for get new project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes,I often get project on GAF(getafreelancer.com),even though many freelancer dont like the way GAF works,it also supply many projects for me.GAF has gold member there , you just pay 12$ and get total payment from your custom,it works for me.  And for get projects quickly ,I often use GafReminder ,it is a good tools for get new project.
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